MacOS 11.00 (Big Sur)

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Re: MacOS 11.00 (Big Sur)

Post by marcarch » Thu Mar 18, 2021 5:00 am

ngomes wrote:
Thu Mar 18, 2021 4:49 am
Is this something new in macOS 11 (a regression)?
I really can't remember now.
ngomes wrote:
Thu Mar 18, 2021 4:49 am
If you move the wheel on the opposite direction (even if only slightly) or press a button, the dynamic scroll should stop.
Yes I know, but Smart scroll should stop when a page or a document ends too, I mean, when the infinite scroll can't go further.

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Re: MacOS 11.00 (Big Sur)

Post by ngomes » Thu Mar 18, 2021 7:27 am

marcarch wrote:
Thu Mar 18, 2021 5:00 am
Yes I know, but Smart scroll should stop when a page or a document ends too, I mean, when the infinite scroll can't go further.
It's not infinite: it's implemented as an "inertial wheel with friction": the scrolling beings to "die down" as soon as the user stop flicking it, just as if the wheel was made out of a heavy piece of metal, spinning freely in bearing.

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Re: MacOS 11.00 (Big Sur)

Post by marcarch » Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:02 am

ngomes wrote:
Thu Mar 18, 2021 7:27 am
It's not infinite: it's implemented as an "inertial wheel with friction": the scrolling beings to "die down" as soon as the user stop flicking it, just as if the wheel was made out of a heavy piece of metal, spinning freely in bearing.
I see, so it makes sense that the spinning wheel stops as soon as it find the end of the page

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Re: MacOS 11.00 (Big Sur)

Post by ngomes » Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:09 am

marcarch wrote:
Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:02 am
I see, so it makes sense that the spinning wheel stops as soon as it find the end of the page
From what I can see, the device is operating as expected and this isn't a driver problem in macOS 11.

If I'm mistaken and you're looking a driver bug in macOS 11 (a regression compared to the driver for macOS 10.15 and older), please indicate what the issue is and we will look into it. Otherwise, I suggest reporting what appears to be a feature request in a separate topic.

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Re: MacOS 11.00 (Big Sur)

Post by marcarch » Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:12 am

ngomes wrote:
Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:09 am
From what I can see, the device is operating as expected and this isn't a driver problem in macOS 11.
Ok, so it's probably an old bug.
And, anyway, this virtual wheel spins too much. Needs more friction, or customizable friction... I already requested this in the past.

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Re: MacOS 11.00 (Big Sur)

Post by ngomes » Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:24 am

marcarch wrote:
Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:12 am
Ok, so it's probably an old bug.
And, anyway, this virtual wheel spins too much. Needs more friction, or customizable friction... I already requested this in the past.
If it does not work for you, why not simply disable the feature? There's a check box in the "3Dconnexion" pane in System Preferences to disable "Smart Scrolling". If this isn't working, then that would be a bug in the new driver and we will need to look into it.

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Re: MacOS 11.00 (Big Sur)

Post by marcarch » Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:37 am

ngomes wrote:
Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:24 am
If it does not work for you, why not simply disable the feature? There's a check box in the "3Dconnexion" pane in System Preferences to disable "Smart Scrolling". If this isn't working, then that would be a bug in the new driver and we will need to look into it.
Smart Scrolling is useful, but need improvements.
Here's another short video to let you better understand the (old) bug or issue: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-ivR1F ... sp=sharing

As you can see the issue happens when you have a double windowed software. I want to scroll where my cursor is, not port the scrolling command to the side window of that software.

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Re: MacOS 11.00 (Big Sur)

Post by ngomes » Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:53 am

marcarch wrote:
Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:37 am
Smart Scrolling is useful, but need improvements.
Understood. I think we're going off topic here.

If the driver and device are working as expected (although not necessarily as you'd like), please continue this discussion in a separate thread.

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Re: MacOS 11.00 (Big Sur)

Post by marcarch » Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:07 am

ngomes wrote:
Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:53 am
If the driver and device are working as expected (although not necessarily as you'd like), please continue this discussion in a separate thread.
Ok I'll start a new topic, but, just to better understand, is it working as expected for you (3Dx staff)?

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Re: MacOS 11.00 (Big Sur)

Post by ngomes » Tue Mar 23, 2021 6:14 am

Announcement copied from here:
The "beta 15" (revision r3318) of the new driver for macOS was released earlier today. The software can be downloaded from the FAQ page linked here. A change history summary is available on the top post.

We have resolved a couple of issues affecting macros in radial menus (MAC-267) and interfering with modifier key operation in keyboard (MAC-290). The core driver is now built natively for the ARM64 platform (M1 chip).

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