Map Volume Up/Down to rotation axis Zs?

Yogi · Post by **Yogi** » Sun Jul 23, 2023 4:27 pm

I've tried using this without success, the ActionID works on the buttons but not the rotation.

<Axis>
    <Enabled>true</Enabled>
        <Input>
            <ActionID>HIDMultiAxis_Rz</ActionID>
            <Min>0</Min>
            <Max>511</Max>
            <Deadband>88</Deadband>
        </Input>
        <Output>
            <ActionID>Driver_MediaPlayer_PreviousTrack</ActionID>
        </Output>
 </Axis>

Note: It says previous track because I've mapped previous track to volume down in PowerToys (don't ask), feel free to provide the answer for volume down directly. Apologies for the confusion.

Kind regards.

Post by **jwick** » Mon Jul 24, 2023 5:58 am

Those functions can only be assigned to buttons.
I like the idea though.

If you can assign them to keyboard keys, you could create an AxisAction to activate them.

Yogi · Post by **Yogi** » Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:03 am

Thanks for letting me know, I'll stop trying and will do the key remap instead, thanks again, jwick, appreciate all your support.

Yogi · Post by **Yogi** » Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:57 am

I'm having a bit of trouble, I haven't used it in a while, I reset all my settings and upgraded to the newest software but it seems my previous methods aren't working....

Does anything stick out to you? I'm just trying to test the basic key 1E, which should output 1:

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<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?><!--
(c) Copyright 3Dconnexion. All rights reserved. 
$Revision: 20112 $
--><Global xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" Default="false" CfgFormatVersion="1.3" ThisFileVersion="1.34">
  <CfgProperties>
    <ID>ID_Global_Cfg</ID>
    <InheritsFromID>ID_Global_Cfg</InheritsFromID>
    <Name>STR_GLOBALCFG</Name>
  </CfgProperties>
  <Settings>
    <LEDsEnabled>false</LEDsEnabled>
    <InstallerAutoCheckForUpdates>true</InstallerAutoCheckForUpdates>
    <LastAutoCheckForUpdates>24-7-2023</LastAutoCheckForUpdates>
  </Settings>
  <AuthorInfo>
    <DriverVersion>17.8.14.20165</DriverVersion>
    <LastChange>
      <Tool>3DxService.exe</Tool>
      <Version>17.8.14.20165</Version>
      <Date>2023:7:1:24:13:48:32:174</Date>
      <User>User</User>
    </LastChange>
    <Created>
      <Tool>3DxService.exe</Tool>
      <Version>17.8.14.20165</Version>
      <Date>2023:7:1:24:13:43:54:884</Date>
      <User>User</User>
    </Created>
  </AuthorInfo>
  <Devices>
    <Device>
      <ID>ID_ProductID_C652</ID>
      <Settings>
        <OnScreenDisplay>
          <AlwaysOn>true</AlwaysOn>
        </OnScreenDisplay>
      </Settings>
    </Device>
	<Device>
      <ID>ID_Standard_3D_Mouse</ID>
	  <AxisBank>
        <Name>Default</Name>
        <ID>Default</ID>
        <Axis>
          <Enabled>true</Enabled>
          <Input>
            <ActionID>HIDMultiAxis_Rz</ActionID>  <!-- description -->
            <Min>0</Min>
            <Max>511</Max>
           <Deadband>88</Deadband>
          </Input>
          <Output>
            <ActionID>KB_Keystroke</ActionID>
	    <RepeatStyle>PressAndHold</RepeatStyle>
            <MaxEventRate>0.25</MaxEventRate>
            <KeyStroke>
              <Key>1E</Key>
            </KeyStroke>
          </Output>
        </Axis>
	<Axis>
          <Enabled>true</Enabled>
          <Input>
            <ActionID>HIDMultiAxis_Rz</ActionID> <!-- description -->
            <Min>-512</Min>
            <Max>0</Max>
            <Deadband>88</Deadband>
          </Input>
          <Output>
            <ActionID>KB_Keystroke</ActionID>
	    <RepeatStyle>PressAndHold</RepeatStyle>
            <MaxEventRate>0.25</MaxEventRate>
            <KeyStroke>
              <Key>1E</Key>
            </KeyStroke>
          </Output>
        </Axis>
	</AxisBank>
      <AxisFilter>Dominant</AxisFilter>
    </Device>
  </Devices>
</Global>

Yogi · Post by **Yogi** » Mon Jul 24, 2023 7:01 am

This may make it easier to read the relevant section:

Post by **jwick** » Mon Jul 24, 2023 7:21 am

When I cut&paste that <Device> into my %appdata%/Global.xml, it outputs 1111111... into notepad. I assume it will work everywhere.
What happens on your machine?
The %localappdata%\3Dconnexion\3DxWare\3DxService.log file will tell you what it is doing.

Yogi · Post by **Yogi** » Mon Jul 24, 2023 7:21 am

-- Apologies, I got it working! Just had to restart the system.

I hope I didn't make you read all that first, couldn't figure out how to edit messages.

Thanks again.

For anyone else, I assigned them to F13 and F14, then used PowerToys to remap the keys to volume up and down.

Where it says KeyStroke><Key> put in 68 for one, 69 for the other to get F13 and F14 (forgot which is which, but it doesn't matter as you just rotate it in PowerToys for the input.

Post by **jwick** » Mon Jul 24, 2023 7:48 am

We've seen some conflicts with multi-key keyboard macros with PowerToys. IIRC, it can cause rearrangement of the keys.

Yogi · Post by **Yogi** » Mon Jul 24, 2023 3:58 pm

Appreciate the warning thank you. So far I haven't noticed any issues but will keep an eye out for them.

I was wondering, now that I have F13 and F14 mapped to the Rz axis globally, if I wanted to have the Rz behave normally for specific applications, is there anything I can do for their configs?

Or should I have done it the other way round and set the volume up and down for every other app that isn't one of the 3D ones...

Post by **jwick** » Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:51 am

There are many ways of doing this.
It would be very annoying to have to add these assignments to every cfg.

There are BankOperations where you can use a device button to change CurrentAxisBank. You can do this temporarily, like a shift key.
You would hold down (or toggle) a SpaceMouse key, then your cap would be in volume control mode. Release (toggle) the key to return to normal mode.

Generally it is used for ButtonBank operations, but the same should work for AxisBanks. Or you can shift/toggle ButtonBanks and AxisBanks together with one button.

Some of this is included in some forum posts. I'd have to look where those are.

It may be easier just to use the Desktop toggle method to switch to the "desktop/2D cfg". People use that to toggle the 3D mouse into/out of 2D mouse mode. There is a preassigned ButtonAction for that. You would put your Volume adjusters into Desktop.xml.

Yogi · Post by **Yogi** » Tue Jul 25, 2023 10:31 am

Thank you very much for the advice. I did not find the preassigned ButtonAction in the GUI for it but I managed to get it working to toggle on button 2 with the following (using https://forum.3dconnexion.com/viewtopic.php?p=116919 as a guide):

Global.xml:

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<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?><!--
(c) Copyright 3Dconnexion. All rights reserved. 
$Revision: 20112 $
--><Global xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" Default="false" CfgFormatVersion="1.3" ThisFileVersion="1.34">
  <CfgProperties>
    <ID>ID_Global_Cfg</ID>
    <InheritsFromID>ID_Global_Cfg</InheritsFromID>
    <Name>STR_GLOBALCFG</Name>
  </CfgProperties>
  <Settings>
    <InstallerAutoCheckForUpdates>true</InstallerAutoCheckForUpdates>
    <LastAutoCheckForUpdates>25-7-2023</LastAutoCheckForUpdates>
    <LogLevel>0</LogLevel>
  </Settings>
  <AuthorInfo>
    <DriverVersion>17.8.14.20165</DriverVersion>
    <LastChange>
      <Tool>3DxService.exe</Tool>
      <Version>17.8.14.20165</Version>
      <Date>2023:7:2:25:17:12:54:720</Date>
      <User>SpaceMouseFan</User>
    </LastChange>
    <Created>
      <Tool>3DxService.exe</Tool>
      <Version>17.8.14.20165</Version>
      <Date>2023:7:1:24:13:43:54:884</Date>
      <User>User</User>
    </Created>
  </AuthorInfo>
  <ButtonActions>
    <ButtonAction Type="Driver_Other">
      <ID>Driver_Desktop_ToggleGrab</ID>
      <Name>STR_DRIVER_DESKTOP_TOGGLEGRAB</Name>
      <Image>
        <Source>[driver_images:Driver_Desktop_ToggleGrab.png]</Source>
      </Image>
    </ButtonAction>
  </ButtonActions>
  <Devices>
    <Device>
      <ID>ID_ProductID_C652</ID>
      <Settings>
        <OnScreenDisplay>
          <AlwaysOn>true</AlwaysOn>
        </OnScreenDisplay>
      </Settings>
    </Device>
	<Device>
      <ID>ID_Standard_3D_Mouse</ID>
      <ButtonBank Global="true">
        <ID>Global Global</ID>
        <Name>Global</Name>
        <Button>
          <Input>
            <ActionID>V3DK_MENU_2</ActionID>
          </Input>
          <Output>
            <ActionID>Driver_Desktop_ToggleGrab</ActionID>
          </Output>
        </Button>
      </ButtonBank>
    </Device>
  </Devices>
</Global>

And for Desktop.xml:

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<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><AppCfg Default="false" xmlns="" CfgFormatVersion="1.3" ThisFileVersion="1.10">
	<AppInfo>
		<Signature>
			<Name>STR_DESKTOP</Name>
		</Signature>
		<Options/>
	</AppInfo>
	<CfgProperties>
		<ID>ID_Desktop_Cfg</ID>
		<Name>STR_DESKTOP</Name>
		<InheritsFromID>ID_Desktop_Cfg</InheritsFromID>
		<Grab>Hard</Grab>
	</CfgProperties>
	<AuthorInfo>
		<DriverVersion>17.8.14.20165</DriverVersion>
		<LastChange>
		  <Tool>3DxService.exe</Tool>
		  <Version>17.8.14.20165</Version>
		  <Date>2023:7:2:25:17:25:38:788</Date>
		  <User>SpaceMouseFan</User>
		</LastChange>
		<Created>
		  <Tool>3DxService.exe</Tool>
		  <Version>17.8.14.20165</Version>
		  <Date>2023:7:1:24:13:43:54:884</Date>
		  <User>yasir</User>
		</Created>
	</AuthorInfo>
	<Devices>
		<Device>
      <ID>ID_Standard_3D_Mouse</ID>
      <AxisBank>
        <Name>Default</Name>
        <ID>Default</ID>
        <Axis>
          <Enabled>true</Enabled>
          <Input>
            <ActionID>HIDMultiAxis_Rz</ActionID>
            <!-- description -->
            <Min>0</Min>
            <Max>511</Max>
            <Deadband>88</Deadband>
          </Input>
          <Output>
            <ActionID>KB_Keystroke</ActionID>
            <RepeatStyle>PressAndHold</RepeatStyle>
            <MaxEventRate>0.2500</MaxEventRate>
            <KeyStroke>
              <Key>68</Key>
            </KeyStroke>
          </Output>
        </Axis>
        <Axis>
          <Enabled>true</Enabled>
          <Input>
            <ActionID>HIDMultiAxis_Rz</ActionID>
            <!-- description -->
            <Min>-512</Min>
            <Max>0</Max>
            <Deadband>88</Deadband>
          </Input>
          <Output>
            <ActionID>KB_Keystroke</ActionID>
            <RepeatStyle>PressAndHold</RepeatStyle>
            <MaxEventRate>0.2500</MaxEventRate>
            <KeyStroke>
              <Key>69</Key>
            </KeyStroke>
          </Output>
        </Axis>
      </AxisBank>
      <AxisFilter>Dominant</AxisFilter>
    </Device>
	</Devices>
</AppCfg>

Post by **jwick** » Tue Jul 25, 2023 11:19 am

You are getting good at this.

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