spacemouse on vmware in win 7 pro

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Re: spacemouse on vmware in win 7 pro

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dogfacerot wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 11:33 am The result is the same, which is, the device has forward and backward motion only.
So, it appears the device is working in your Windows 7 installation.

What is the target application?
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Re: spacemouse on vmware in win 7 pro

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Yes, the device is being seen by the VM, but it isn't working correctly.
The app is irrelevant b/c the device doesn't work in the native 3dConnexion app (Training, Practice, Puzzle, etc. modules).
So there's some problem with how the driver functions inside the VM, or maybe the device's interface hard coding needs updating?
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Re: spacemouse on vmware in win 7 pro

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dogfacerot wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 7:03 am luping,

I didn't know only 2 input devices were allowed on a VM.
Doesn't make any sense, since many of us use 3 or more input devices.
This is my first go-around with a VM.

I'm running legacy CAD software (from back in the early 2000's).
I really don't care about MicroSnot, ISV's and all those Anti-Trust Act violatiors.

"By the way, your upbringing is poor, it's not your fault."
Says who?
Your isn't much better, so I guess that makes us brothers!

Quiz:
Which is worse, 1) violating the Anti-Trust Act in the regular course of business or returning rude for rude in a forum?


ngomes, thanx for the link, but I already know that, which is why I came into this forum.
https://docs.vmware.com/en/VMware-Works ... 3D9617CB5Ais closer to what I need to know but not enough info although way too much.

Surely people are using a SpaceMouse in an older OS VM??
Try VirtualHere software to forward the SpaceMouse device to the virtual machine.
"By the way, your upbringing is poor, it's not your fault."
Says who?
Your isn't much better, so I guess that makes us brothers!
Your parents. I don't use any vulgar words, and your guess is wrong. Get yourself straight

You still have to use the Windows operating system to get your job done, if you don't like Microsoft, just jump over to any Linux/GNU distribution, MacOS, FreeBSD or any other OS for your work.
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Re: spacemouse on vmware in win 7 pro

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luping,

I already have an Ubuntu hard disk, but none of my CAD software works on it.

Thanks for the referral to Virtual_Here.
I just tried it and it failed.
Here's the LOG file data:

2023-05-13 19:56:36 INFO :>>> Starting VirtualHere USB Server v4.5.8 (Built: Apr 27 2023, 11:41:42)<<<
2023-05-13 19:56:36 INFO :Using configuration F:\data\computer\Virtual PC\USB Passthru\Virtual_Here\config.ini
2023-05-13 19:56:36 INFO :Server licensed to=unlicensed max_devices=1
2023-05-13 19:56:36 INFO :Listening on all network interfaces at TCP port 7575 (IPv6 dual-stack)
2023-05-13 19:56:36 ERROR :IOCTL_USB_GET_NODE_CONNECTION_INFORMATION_EX failed for USB\VID_0930&PID_6545\000D88277275EB30358D011A, A device attached to the system is not functioning. (0x0000001f)
2023-05-13 19:56:39 WARNING :Loading string descriptor for device on port 3 failed, A device attached to the system is not functioning. (0x0000001f)
2023-05-13 19:56:39 INFO :Found High speed device [0930:6545] "Kingston, DataTraveler G3 " at address 1
2023-05-13 19:56:39 INFO :Found Low speed device [256f:c635] "3Dconnexion, SpaceMouse Compact" at address 2
2023-05-13 19:56:39 INFO :Found Low speed device [0000:0000] "0x0000, 0x0000" at address 3
2023-05-13 19:56:39 ERROR :Empty descriptor for device at address 3!
2023-05-13 19:56:39 INFO :Found Low speed device [051d:0002] "American Power Conversion, Smart-UPS 1500 FW:601.3.D USB FW:8.1" at address 4
2023-05-13 19:56:39 INFO :Found Low speed device [1c4f:0016] "SIGMACHIP, USB Keyboard" at address 5
2023-05-13 19:56:39 INFO :Found Full speed device [0b33:1004] "Contour Design, Contour Rollermouse Red" at address 6
2023-05-13 19:56:39 INFO :Found Full speed device [0d8c:0008] "0x0d8c, C-Media USB Audio Device " at address 7
2023-05-13 19:56:39 ERROR :IOCTL_USB_GET_NODE_CONNECTION_INFORMATION_EX failed for USB\VID_0930&PID_6545\000D88277275EB30358D011A, A device attached to the system is not functioning. (0x0000001f)
2023-05-13 19:56:40 ERROR :IOCTL_USB_GET_NODE_CONNECTION_INFORMATION_EX failed for USB\VID_0930&PID_6545\000D88277275EB30358D011A, A device attached to the system is not functioning. (0x0000001f)
2023-05-13 19:56:41 ERROR :IOCTL_USB_GET_NODE_CONNECTION_INFORMATION_EX failed for USB\VID_0930&PID_6545\000D88277275EB30358D011A, A device attached to the system is not functioning. (0x0000001f)
2023-05-13 19:58:01 INFO :192.168.80.129 connected as connection 1 (Standard TCP)
2023-05-13 19:58:01 ERROR :Empty descriptor for device at address 3!
2023-05-13 19:58:34 ERROR :Error 50 calling hub powercycle for device 2, The request is not supported. (0x00000032)
2023-05-13 19:58:34 WARNING :Device 2 never reappeared!
2023-05-13 19:58:34 ERROR :Error binding device 2 [256f:c635] to connection 1, BIND_ERROR
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Re: spacemouse on vmware in win 7 pro

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Incidentally, when it tried switching devices on the VM (shut one off and turn another one on), the computer dropped out and rebooted.
That tells me there's a serious problem with the way this app communicates w/the hardware.
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Re: spacemouse on vmware in win 7 pro

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dogfacerot wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 12:31 pm The app is irrelevant b/c the device doesn't work in the native 3dConnexion app (Training, Practice, Puzzle, etc. modules).
If the demo applications (Jet, Cube, Puzzle) do not work, then there is some sort of very basic incompatibility.

Try using an older version of 3DxWare 10. There are a few available in the archive.
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Re: spacemouse on vmware in win 7 pro

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Great idea, but I had already tried that. I have drivers from way back (WinXP). Nothing worked.

I'm betting it's the same defect in driver programming or hard-coded, low-level calls to the machine that I encountered when struggling to get the drivers to work in Inventor 2010 back in the day. I was so frustrated with the incompetence that I got into a word war with 3dX tech.

Sad how nothing changes over the decades. If I did my job like that just once, I'd be on the bread line. The computer world is the only 'industry' where you can create incompatible products and do half-baked work, while stringing people along indefinitely, yet still make a profit. Any other industry (except GOVERNMENT) would go out of business if they operated like that in the real world!

Anyone know of any other add-on utility that will work as a pass-thru so I can get this device to work as-expected? I'm talking about one I don't have to pay a lot for b/c I'm only using it for one device locally.
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