<DONE> SpaceNavigator Driver - Mouse Joystick Keyboard

DCrosby · Post by **DCrosby** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 10:35 pm

AHHHH ! I'm about ready to toss both spaceballs out the window, since that's something that I CAN do with them....

So I bought a Navigator @ $50 which since it's for home use, I don't care about phone support. and since support seems to be a follocy anyhow, who cares...

So I install RB9's driver, and it seems because it writes to registry which Vista now protects like it's own child, it can't write anything so I can't assign anything.... Crazy.... Back to square 1.

On the Driver front. ( Pilot and possibly x64 ), I'm having a real software engineer take a look at it, and let me know how to debug it. My suspicion is via another machiene watching the driver execute during boot, and stepping through. But We will see...

I haven't given up yet but this has to be the most trying endeavor I've been on, to get support for hardware in my career, almost 20 years....

bjevers · Post by **bjevers** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 1:26 pm

DCrosby wrote:So I install RB9's driver, and it seems because it writes to registry which Vista now protects like it's own child, it can't write anything so I can't assign anything.... Crazy.... Back to square 1.

I think if you disable UAC it will work.

DCrosby wrote:On the Driver front. ( Pilot and possibly x64 ), I'm having a real software engineer take a look at it, and let me know how to debug it. My suspicion is via another machiene watching the driver execute during boot, and stepping through. But We will see...

I haven't given up yet but this has to be the most trying endeavor I've been on, to get support for hardware in my career, almost 20 years....

Good, I just got my SpaceNav in the mail today hoping something comes out to let me get it working in Vista x64. I just started messing with GlovePIE. Having a little trouble assigning a key to an axis, almost like there is no dead zone. I'll keep trying though.

Sleepy · Post by **Sleepy** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 3:58 pm

bjevers wrote:Good, I just got my SpaceNav in the mail today hoping something comes out to let me get it working in Vista x64. I just started messing with GlovePIE. Having a little trouble assigning a key to an axis, almost like there is no dead zone. I'll keep trying though.

thats basically the same issue i had. mine would always want to pull to the left, what about you?

this weekend i'm having a friend look into it for me. hopefully i'll at least be able to bring some useful information back from that trip. theres potential for me to call in a favor and possibly get some good base code to work with out of it.

Dwabble · Post by **Dwabble** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 11:05 pm

bjevers wrote: Good, I just got my SpaceNav in the mail today hoping something comes out to let me get it working in Vista x64. I just started messing with GlovePIE. Having a little trouble assigning a key to an axis, almost like there is no dead zone. I'll keep trying though.

The documentation on GlovePIE claims that the limit of the values reported by the spacennavigator are determined by the GUI settings and there 'is no way of telling what those are' (nonsense of course, it comes with a siappdll.dll to read those values, and the axis state/values too, but nm that), anyway I found that they are in the range between -200 and 200 for the yaw/pitch/roll for me.
However there's also a polling for spaceball.axis and spaceball.axisangle which is a whole different ballgame, and the spaceball.z seems to register 2 things at the same time, seems the whole thing is very beta, which is also noticeable by how the names in the windowtitle and such aren't even stripped of the EOL characters, or 0000 whatever it use to index the end of line, which seems rather amateuristic, although the CPU's nx bit didn't notice any overflows when I tried it I must admit.

Dwabble · Post by **Dwabble** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 11:18 pm

PS. rather than using the example 0.97 to detect the deadzone for cursor movements I used 150 and that worked.

example:

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Key.down = (SpaceBall.pitch > 150.0) ;
Key.up = (SpaceBall.pitch < -150.0) ;
Key.right = (SpaceBall.roll > 150.0) ;
Key.left = (SpaceBall.roll < -150.0) ;

Dwabble · Post by **Dwabble** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 11:22 pm

I still would much prefer a RBC9-style driver or autohotkey, but I gave GlovePIE a quick test on my 64bit system but if I'm in need for non-supported functionality on 64bit I think I'll prefer to try something else.

DCrosby · Post by **DCrosby** » Fri Sep 05, 2008 11:16 am

I Ended up fixing it, by tagging the EXE as "run run as Administrator, and now it saves things to the registry....registry...

Dwabble · Post by **Dwabble** » Tue Sep 09, 2008 2:11 am

Dwabble wrote:..and the spaceball.z seems to register 2 things at the same time...

Just a quick note that I changed some stuff on my system and now spaceball.z seems to function normally, hope it lasts.
Anyway, perhaps I was wrong blaming GlovePIE for the issue.

leogutmut · Post by **leogutmut** » Fri Sep 19, 2008 11:05 am

I just like to thank RBC9 and the MOD-writer so much, got today my SN and I'm so exited about using it as mouse replace

At the moment I'm customizing my firefox so further navigation will be very nice

In between: I had no problems to install the SN. Firts downloaded the original software from the 3dconnexion homepage, installed it normally, downloaded the RBC9 Version from the starting post and finally from page 24 yos mod. After replacing the original RBC9 files with the mod files I updated the driver and it just works!

Very very nice work and the SN ist much better as a normal mouse as far as I can see

Only problem will be using Inventor or so, where you have to reuse a normal mouse... I don't think two SN at one PC will work properly

darkside · Post by **darkside** » Sat Sep 20, 2008 7:27 am

hi
i have a spacenavigator for notebooks, ive installed the driver, and everything seems fine in windows device manager, the controller is glowing, the ony problem is, that the cursor is moving only horizontally, and if i turn the button, it makes a page up and page down, but nothing more is working, the spacedriver apllication, says on startup: spacenavigator not found, is there please a solution? or do i have to sell it, and buy the spacenavigator?

thx

darkside · Post by **darkside** » Sat Sep 20, 2008 8:05 am

darkside wrote:hi
i have a spacenavigator for notebooks, ive installed the driver, and everything seems fine in windows device manager, the controller is glowing, the ony problem is, that the cursor is moving only horizontally, and if i turn the button, it makes a page up and page down, but nothing more is working, the spacedriver apllication, says on startup: spacenavigator not found, is there please a solution? or do i have to sell it, and buy the spacenavigator?

thx

im using now the joystick mouse tool:
http://www.deinmeister.de/jmt.htm
and its not bad...

chriscache · Post by **chriscache** » Sat Sep 20, 2008 11:56 pm

The links for the Download are broken. Could anybody upload the progs anywhere or fix the links, please? You would make my day!

darkside · Post by **darkside** » Sun Sep 21, 2008 12:43 am

chriscache wrote:The links for the Download are broken. Could anybody upload the progs anywhere or fix the links, please? You would make my day!

i had also the problem, the solution, was a friend of me:) somehow worked the links on his computer, i dont understand:/
i will try to upload it somewhere...

darkside · Post by **darkside** » Sun Sep 21, 2008 12:50 am

reupload:
http://rapidshare.com/files/147069404/rbc.rar.html

chriscache · Post by **chriscache** » Sun Sep 21, 2008 1:26 am

Thanks a lot mate!

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