Spacenavigator Acad2013 windows7

[HaroldSchans]

Hi people,

I have an Issue with my Spacenavigator and my new workstation.
I run AutoCAD 2013 on a windows 7 machine.
When I zoom in far with my spacenavigator It gets far too sensitive, when I move a bit or zoom a bit it moves way too much, it gets useless and frustrating!
What can I do to cure this

Thanks a lot!

Greets from Holland
Harold

[Bryan]

Dear HaroldSchans,

Autocad has a 'hotfix' for their latest applications having trouble making proper use of 3Dconnexion devices.
It may be found at this url.

http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/ps ... ID=9240618

They make available two different downloads.
One for 32 bit systems and one for 64 bit systems.
They also have a read-me file with complete instructions.
It describes the problems that may be resolved and applications that these problems may be resolved in.
It procedure is basically that of replacing an installed file of theirs with a file in the download, after upgrading the applications service pack.

Sincerely,
Bryan

I have copied and pasted from their website below, but make sure you actually read the lastest instructions they have posted for their software.

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Autodesk 3Dconnexion Hotfix

This hotfix corrects the following issues with 3Dconnexion devices:

Zoom speed varies in perspective view
Pivot point position is far from the model causing the model to go off the drawing area when rotated
High zoom out speed after zooming in a small area of the drawing
Consult the readme file for installation instructions and more details on the primary issues resolved by this update. Be sure to install the correct hotfix (32-bit or 64-bit) for your software and operating system.

Note: Before applying this hotfix to your Autodesk product, you must install service pack 1 (or SP1.1 for AutoCAD and AutoCAD LT).

acvmtools_x86.zip (zip - 472Kb)
acvmtools_x64.zip (zip - 546Kb)
Readme (pdf - 19Kb)

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Autodesk 3Dconnexion Hotfix Readme
Thank you for downloading the 3Dconnexion Hotfix
This readme contains the latest information regarding the installation and use of this hotfix.
It is strongly recommended that you read this entire document before you apply this hotfix
to your product.
For reference, please save this document to your hard drive or print a copy.
Affected Products
This hotfix applies to the following products:
 AutoCAD®
2013
 AutoCAD®
LT 2013
 AutoCAD®
Architecture 2013
 AutoCAD®
Civil 3D®
2013
 AutoCAD®
Electrical 2013
 AutoCAD®
Map 3D 2013
 AutoCAD®
Mechanical 2013
 AutoCAD®
MEP 2013
 AutoCAD®
P&ID 2013
 AutoCAD®
Plant 3D 2013
 AutoCAD®
Raster Design 2013
 AutoCAD®
Structural Detailing 2013
 AutoCAD®
Utility Design 2013
Affected 3Dconnexion Devices
This hotfix applies to the following 3Dconnexion devices:
 SpaceExplorer USB
 SpaceMouse Pro
 SpaceNavigator  SpaceNavigator for Notebooks
 SpacePilot
 SpacePilot Pro
Issues Resolved by This Update
 Zoom speed varies in perspective view
When in perspective view, the zoom out speed when using a 3Dconnexion device is
higher than the zoom in speed.
 Pivot point position is far from the model causing the model to go off the drawing area
when rotated
When rotating a view using a 3Dconnexion device, the model swings out of view
because the pivot point is positioned far away from the model.

 High zoom out speed after zooming in a small area of the drawing
After you zoom into a small area of the drawing, zooming out happens too fast with
little control.
Installation Instructions
You must have administrative privileges on your Microsoft® Windows® operating system to
complete the installation process.
Note: You must install service pack 1 (or 1.1 for AutoCAD and AutoCAD LT) prior to
applying this hotfix.
This installation requires you to replace the following file:
 Acvmtools.crx
To Replace the Acvmtools.crx File
1. Close all software applications.
2. Navigate to your product installation folder, for example:
C:\Program Files\Autodesk\AutoCAD 2013.
3. In the product installation folder, right-click the Acvmtools.crx file and rename it
Acvmtools.bak.
4. Download the file for your application to a location on your local computer: o For 32-bit operating systems:
acvmtools_x86.zip
o For 64-bit operating systems:
acvmtools_x64.zip
5. To install the fix, double-click the ZIP file and save the Acvmtools.crx file to the
product installation folder.
To Uninstall This Hotfix
1. In the product installation folder, delete the Acvmtools.crx file that you downloaded.
2. Restore the file you renamed (Acvmtools.bak) to the original name (Acvmtools.crx).
Copyright ©2012 Autodesk, Inc.

[HaroldSchans]

Dear Bryan,

Thanks a lot for your reply, bur your link isn't working...
Can you try again?

Thanks

[Bryan]

Dear HaroldSchans,

Try this link:

http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/ps ... ID=9240618

Sincerely,
Bryan g.

[HaroldSchans]

Thanks Bryan, Hope this hotfix works!
Is there a hotfix for Inventor too?

Greets from Holland

[Bryan]

Dear HaroldSchans,

I don't know if they have a specific hotfix for Inventor.
but they state this hotfix
Applies to:
AutoCAD® 2013
AutoCAD® Architecture 2013
AutoCAD® Civil 3D® 2013
AutoCAD® Electrical 2013
AutoCAD LT® 2013
AutoCAD® Map 3D 2013
AutoCAD® Mechanical 2013
AutoCAD® MEP 2013
AutoCAD® P&ID 2013
AutoCAD® Plant 3D 2013
AutoCAD® Raster Design 2013
AutoCAD® Structural Detailing 2013
AutoCAD® Utility Design 2013

If there are any Inventor ServicePaks or updates, I would make sure to stay up to date.

Sincerely,
Bryan g.

[UtaSH]

Is there a hotfix for Inventor too?

Do you encounter problems with Inventor?

[Bryan]

Dear akhtarnaveed767,

See above posts concerning AutoCAD's Hotfix.

Sincerely,
Bryan

[HaroldSchans]

Is there a hotfix for Inventor too?

Do you encounter problems with Inventor?

No not yet, but haven't worked with Inventor a lot yet.
Just in case...

The hotfix for Acad 2013 works great, the zooming works a lot better.

[HaroldSchans]

I was terribly wrong... my spacenavigator still hates Acad.
Sometimes it seemes to go well, but after a short while the spacenavigator goes mad and zooming or turning smoothly with it is almost impossible.
It zoomes much to fast, in a fraction of a second your drawing goes from fully zoomed out to just a pinpoint.
Sometimes I think that when de drawing is larger (more lines, more hatches) the spacenavigator cannot handle it and looses it's mind.

I work with Design Suite 2013, where should I replace the Acvmtools.crx file?
Where should this file be? Can there be more then one?
Sometime it seemes to go wel, and then at once it goes mad...
Can it switch between more .crx files?

Still not happy with it...

My machine:
HP Z420
CPU Intel Xeon E5-1620 3,6 Ghz
RAM 12 GB DDR3
HDD 240 GB SSD
NVIDIA Quadro 4000 (2GB)
OS Windows 7 Professional 64-bits

I hope someone can help me out...

Greets Harold

[UtaSH]

Hello Harold,

could you please send me the PID of your device in a private message?

When the SpaceNavigator "goes mad" could you please start the 3Dconnexion Viewer (from 3D Mouse Home) and check if you have the same problems there?

[HaroldSchans]

@UtaSH: I will send you the PID soon.
I'm not sure what you mean with "3Dconnexion viewer" nore where to find it.

If I look in my program Files/3Dconnexion/3Dconnecion 3DxSoftware folder I see a lot of sub-folders:

"3DxAutoCAD200864"
"3DxAutoCAD200964"
"3DxAutoCAD201064"
"3DxInventor64"
"3DxMaya864"
"3DxMaya8564"
"3DxMaya200864"
"3DxMaya200964"
"3DxNX464"
"3DxNX564"
"3DxNX664"
"3DxPhotoshopCS464"
"3DxProEBGINEERWF364"
"3DxProEBGINEERWF464"
"3DxSI64"
"3DxSolidEdge64"
"3DxSolidWorks64"
"3DStudio964"
"3DStudio200864"
"3DStudio200964"
"3DStudio201064"
"3DxWare64"

Can I delete the folders which refer to programms I don't use?
Can I delete the older AutoCAD folders (864 / 964)?
Could these different folders be (part of) the problem?

Thanks in Advance

Greets from Holland

[UtaSH]

Hello Harold,

I don't think these folders are the reason for the problem. Please do not delete them. You can do a clean-up and re-installation as described here. And when you are re-installing un-select every plugin that you don't need. Note: for AutoCAD 2013 you do not need a plugin from 3Dconnexion. Only the driver is needed. Our current release version of the driver is 3DxSoftware 3.16.3 and can be downloaded here.

Please lete me know if the clean-up solves the problem.

The 3Dconnexion Viewer can be launched from the 3D Mouse Home or with Start -> All Programs -> 3Dconnexion -> Demos -> Viewer.

(Thanks for sending the PID. I just wanted to know how old your device is.)

[Gazo]

I am new to the forum but have been using 3D Connexion products for many years with SolidWorks with very little issue. I recently took on a new position where we use AutoCAD LT 2013. I brought in my Space Pilot Pro, downloaded the drivers and ran install.

The space Pilot does not operate in AutoCAD LT 2013 at all. I looked at the Help file in ACAD and it says that 3D mice are enabled through the "NAVBAR"

The NAVBAR will not display in ACAD, I beleive that the response is command not available or unknown.

I have installed the 1.2 update for ACAD anf the .CRX hotfix as well. Both of these we done ater the Space Pilot Driver were installed.

Running Win 7 32 bit.

Any ideas are appreciated.
Thanks for your tme!

[Fred]

Gazo,

Autodesk added support natively for our devices.
The Navbar is part of Autocad.
Contact Autodesk and ask them how to enable the navbar in the LT version.